The following is a compilation of Q&A's submitted by enthusiasts and answered by Ask Motor-Mike and Ed.
Part Fifty Six Q&A 1376 - 1400
1376. I have a 2004 BE PT with 13k miles. A CD is stuck in the OE radio CD player. I press the eject button but nothing happens. How do I get the CD out? I've not had this problem before. Many thanks. – Julie, from Georgia.
The radio unit does offer some diagnostic ability when it encounters an error or problem, which is visible on the display. The radio display read out will indicate “E-0?” with the question mark representing the number of the corresponding diagnostic error code.
E-01 – Deadlock problem – Requires dealer servicing.
E-02 – Disc eject problem - Requires dealer servicing.
E-06 – Elevator problem - Requires dealer servicing.
E-07 - Magazine eject problem – Check that magazine is ok, if not requires dealer servicing.
A number of conditions can cause the disc not to eject, including a faulty disc, foreign material on the disc, binding or jammed mechanism, and or a faulty audio component. A binding or a jammed mechanism can be an issue when playing some (home) burned and labeled CD's. Sometimes the paper label is too thick, or can start to peel off the CD inside radio as it warms up, which can create eject problems. On some CD players there is a small hole on the side of the CD opening. Poking this indent with a paper clip while pressing the eject button occasionally works, but unfortunately the PT's OE radio does not offer this feature. Therefore a trip to the dealer may be in order. If the radio is faulty, it should be covered under your vehicle warranty based upon your mileage and model year.
1377. I have a 2001 LE PT with 97k miles. I ran the car up to normal operating temperature and noticed (about 5-10 minutes later) when I rev it up, it very quietly backfires. I brought it to the mechanic and he was able to duplicate the issue, and that it would just get gradually worse until it sputtered out completely. After dying, the car would have to be cooled down again before restarting. He replaced the ignition coil, but the problem hasn't been resolved and I'm seeing a P0352 DTC when I ran the self tests. I have no idea what this means. Once again, thank you for your input. – Nick, from Iowa.
P0352 (M) Ignition Coil Primary # 2 Circuit - Peak primary circuit current not achieved with maximum dwell time.
The 2005 Powertrain diagnostic manual indicates the following possible causes for a P0352 DTC:
Good Trip Equal To Zero
(A142) ASD Relay Output Circuit
Ignition Coil Driver Circuit Open
Coil Control Circuit Shorted To Ground
I will assume that if your mechanic had a DRB scan tool and diagnostic manual set in his possession he would have followed up on the fault by performing the tests outlined in the manual. If he did not, there's not much more you can do to troubleshoot this issue on your own other than to locate a shop that has the appropriate diagnostic manuals, equipment and training to use them. You might want to consider a trip to your local DC dealer. Most dealers will run a diagnostic for $50 and absorb it if you allow them to repair the vehicle. If you prefer to repair it yourself, the $50 is still well spent if they can pinpoint the issue. It's much cheaper than throwing parts at it.
1378. We have a 2001 LE PT with 56.5k miles. The MIL indicator (steady) came on yesterday and stayed on. I ran the self tests and there were no fault codes. All of the fluids are good and there are no drivability issues. No unusual behavior preceded the event. – Raul, from Florida.
If the MIL is flashing, vehicle operation is discouraged until the malfunction is repaired, but a solid MIL usually indicates a less severe issue. If your fluid levels are ok and there are no drivability issues you have a few options, but I wouldn't delay too long in having it checked.
The vehicle self tests can be helpful, but there are limitations in what they check and reveal. There are several hundred potential DTC's that can be recorded via the PCM/TCM, however only a handful of them are recognized and made visible by the self tests. The only way to accurately check the system for faults is with a scan tool, which is what the dealer would use to diagnose the issue. The scanner would show all recorded faults, including the recorded, but hidden ones not visible with the self tests.
In some instances, dependent upon the MIL, you can correct the problem yourself without a trip to the dealer. Often, after several drive cycles, the MIL may reset itself. In this instance, it sounds like you have already driven a few cycles since the MIL occurred and it hasn't resolved the issue, therefore it is not likely that additional cycles will help.
DTC's are introduced by various conditions. If your fluid levels are ok and there are no drivability issues, there are consumer induced conditions which can set the MIL. Engine management/emission control systems are so sensitive that the MIL will light up due to driver-induced stimuli. These might include leaving the fuel filler cap loose, driving the vehicle too hard under extreme conditions, using the wrong grade of fuel, or poor fuel quality.
1379. I have a 2001 LE PT with 44k miles. The fog lights have quit operating. I've checked two 15A fuses (interior fuse box and PDC) and both are fine Bulbs checked w/ohm meter and appear okay. Any complaints/problems reported with regard to the on/off switch located on the steering column? Thanks for your help. – Michael, from Ohio.
If both bulbs and fuses are ok I would suggest checking the grounds at each fog lamp. If the grounds are ok, the next stop would be the multi-function switch in the steering column. A number of these have failed over each model year. If you need one, you'll find an OE diagnostic and replacement guide for the switch here.
There is also the possibility of a broken connector terminal or wire splice in the fog lamp circuit however that would be the least likely cause based upon previous feedback from owners.
1380. My daughter has a 2001 LE PT with 51k miles. She had her purse stolen along with her two remotes and one of her keys. I know that these things can be found on the internet for about half what the dealer charges. The question is, can I activate the new key by myself and what is the procedure? Thanks. – John, from Illinois.
Blank keys can be purchased inexpensively online, however they must be cut to the ignition switch and programmed to the RKE module onboard the PT before they can be utilized. The owners' manual provides a method for the vehicle owner to program a new (cut) key, but it has met with limited success from the owners we hear from and requires TWO previously programmed keys to perform the procedure. It's not clear whether the unsuccessful outcome is an error on their part or faulty OE instructions provided by DC. If you have one programmed key a new (cut) key can only be programmed using a DRB scan tool, which all DC dealers have. A blank key, cutting and programming may explain the additional pricing through the dealer. You might also want to check with independent shops in your area that provide this service.
1381. I have a 2003 TE PT with 55k miles. The car has started to buck and or miss under the following conditions. While cruising along at highway speeds (under 2000rpm) and encountering a load increase such as a hill, or if I accelerate. If I'm above 2200rpm, there is no problem. Also, at idle, the engine sometimes stalls. The dealer indicated that no misfire codes were set when they checked the PT. I strongly believe that this is a fuel system problem, and not a bad plug or wire. I further suspect that the TPS is involved and that is why the trouble is limited to specific engine speeds. To this end, I would appreciate any insights and/or instructions involving the TPS and fuel system. – Brian, from Florida.
When the OBD II system detects a misfire that exceeds "normal" limits, it sets a DTC that corresponds to the misfiring cylinder. If a DTC isn't set the problem you're experiencing either isn't a misfire, or not severe enough to trigger the DTC. Intermittent misfires are the worst kind to diagnose because the misfire comes and goes depending on engine load and or operating conditions. More often than not it's the plugs and or wires. If you have already checked the fuel injectors and throttle body you may want to consider checking the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel pump (Fuel System Pressure 400 kpa ±34 kpa or 58 psi ± 5 psi), but I would check the plugs, wires, and EGR valve/hose next.
The (TPS) signal represents throttle blade position. As the position of the throttle blade changes, the resistance of the TPS changes. The PCM supplies approximately 5 volts to the TPS. The TPS output voltage (input signal to the powertrain control module) represents throttle blade position. The TPS output voltage to the PCM varies from approximately 0.6 volt at minimum throttle opening (idle) to a maximum of 4.5 volts at wide open throttle. Along with inputs from other sensors, the PCM uses the TPS input to determine current engine operating conditions. The PCM also adjusts fuel injector pulse width and ignition timing based on these inputs. Might be the TPS, but that would be unusual based upon the feedback we receive from owners. Please see the Fuel Delivery and Injection system guides in the Pit area.
1382. I just bought a preowned 2001 DC PT, which did not include an owners' manual. I am trying to figure out how to reset the trip meter. I found the little button on the dash, all that does is change the odometer to the trip meter. When I push it, it goes back to the odometer, and the trip meter does not re-set. Do you know the trick to this? Thanks. – Judy, from Idaho.
The vacuum fluorescent display indicator will illuminate when the Trip Odometer is in use. By pushing the trip button, located next to the instrument cluster, the odometer will toggle between total distance and trip distance. In the trip odometer mode, holding the trip button for more than 2 seconds will rest the trip odometer to "0". Owners manual information is available here.
1383. I have a 2001 LE PT with 61k miles. Lately, when I start the car and shift into reverse, the car shudders and the gears feel like they are slipping. It feels like the the PT is going to stall. If I stop and wait 5 seconds or so, everything becomes normal. It usually happens when the engine is cold, and sometimes when I shift into Drive. From a dead stop under hard acceleration it feels like 1st gear kind of slips. I had my transmission flushed about a month ago, but it was doing it before then. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. - Braxon, from Florida.
I would have the transmission inspected and the fluid pump pressure tested. I certainly hope the flush tech knew enough to use ATF+4 and not normal transmission fluid.
1384. I have a 2005 BE PT with standard armrests for the driver and passenger. Out of curiosity, I sat in a new 2006 PT that had the new armrest console unit, which I really like. Can the new armrest console be installed in my 2005 cruiser? Would any amount of modification to my existing floor console allow it to be installed? Your comments and advice are appreciated. – Norm, from Montana.
The console/armrest combo on the 2006's models are very nice, however I suspect that you would have to replace the entire floor console since the old and new units are distinctly different. Then you would have to deal with the existing seats; once the armrests are removed you would have to plug the holes, which might look a little unsightly. It would be an expensive modification. Unfortunately, the 2006 service and parts manuals are not available to consumers as of yet, which is what we would consult and rely upon to make a determination for a modification.
1385. I have a 2001 LE 2.0L export PT with 11.5k miles. The MIL came on and I discovered the following fault codes: P0601, P1684 and P0123. I had experienced engine stalling while pressing the accelerator but the car is running normal now. Would you mind helping me with my car? Thanks. – Jacky, from Hong Kong.
P1684 Battery Disconnected in the last 50 Starts
P0601 - PCM internal controller failure.
P0123 - Throttle Position Sensor Voltage High - Throttle position sensor input above the maximum acceptable voltage.
P1684 does not require any attention, but you'll need a scan tool and diagnostic manuals to troubleshoot the remaining DTC issues. The P0601 code usually indicates a PCM failure and is not a DIY repair; it must be replaced by the dealer.
1386. I have a 2001 preowned PT with 86k miles. I decided to service the automatic transmission and obtained a high quality gasket, which I installed according to the gasket manufacture instructions. In the winter, the pan leaks about a silver dollar sized spot of ATF per day. I recently changed the gasket again to no avail. I did notice, however, that the transmission pan has two problems. First, it is made from stamped steel instead of cast aluminum as the transmission case is. Second, at several of the pan bolt holes, the bolt contacts the curved edge of the pan before it can seat flush on the pan flange. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated. – John, from Maryland.
We haven't received any reports regarding transmission oil pan leaks to date. I reviewed the OE service manual and separate parts IPB for the 2001 model year PT. The service manual does not show or make reference to a seal or gasket. When reinstalling the pan it indicates:
"Reinstall pan using new Mopar Silicone Adhesive sealant."
The IPB does not show a gasket or seal, nor do any of the P/N's in this section refer to one. The OE Transmission Oil Pan P/N for the 41TE transaxle, 2.4L engine is 4431 997. The OE 41TE transaxle system guide is available in the Pit area if you would like to review it.
1387. I have a 2002 LE PT with 60k miles. After using the wiper system for 1/2 hour at highway speeds the windshield wipers slow down and sometimes come to a complete stop. After stopping the vehicle and again trying the wiper system they seem to work fine. Can the wind pressure of a moving car slow down or stop the wipers due to a weak wiper motor? – Tom, from New York.
Probably not, but it may be a failing washer motor which overheats under this condition, however the diagnostic doesn't address the event that you describe. Check for obvious signs, loose connections and or faulty ground. Washer Pump diagnostic and system guides are available in the Pit area if you wish to test and or replace the washer motor. (Unable to respond – bounced back as undeliverable, invalid email address.)
1388. I just purchased a pre-owned 2004 BE PT with power windows and locks through a local dealer. There was no remote key FOB with it and the dealer did not know if it came with that feature. Is there a way to determine if I am setup for this feature before I buy a FOB? – Scott, from Tennessee.
Your local dealer can easily run the VIN and tell you exactly which options were installed on your PT. Power windows are standard equipment on the base model PT. The Keyless Entry, Remote system, which includes two transmitters and panic alarm, and Power Door Locks system, which includes central locking and customer programmable automatic operation are both included in Base Power Convenience Group.
2004 Base Power Convenience Group Options — Power door locks with central locking and programmable automatic operation, remote keyless entry system.
It sounds like you have the Base Power Convenience Group Option package - If you can verify that you should be able to purchase a key FOB, however the dealer will have to program it to the RKE (Remote Keyless Entry) module in the vehicle, using their DRB scan tool, before you can use it.
1389. I have a preowned 2004 BE PT with 40k miles. When I engage the cruise control, the light in the odometer turns on but cruise will not engage. The manual said that there is a relay, but when I went to the dealership they told me there was no relay. Is there a relay? If so, how do I replace it or trouble shoot the electrical. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. – Bob, from Michigan.
The speed control system is electronically controlled and vacuum operated, and integrated into the Powertrain Control Module. The vacuum display indicator in the cluster shows that the system is on. There are no relays in the system. The service manual provides a diagnostic for troubleshooting the system and wiring schematics are available if needed. In some instances the use of a scan tool and powertrain diagnostic manual may be necessary.
1390. We have a 2004 LE PT with 17k miles. I was interested in knowing how the lighting in the overhead console is controlled? Thanks for the great web site and help. – Marvin, from Arizona.
The overhead console reading and courtesy lamps operate on battery current that is provided at all times, regardless of the ignition switch position. The ground feed for the lamps is switched through the integral reading and courtesy lamp switches or through the door jamb switches. All reading and courtesy lamps located in the overhead console are activated by the door jamb switches. When all of the doors are closed, these lamps can be individually activated by depressing the corresponding lens. When any door is open, depressing the lamp lenses to activate the lamp switches will not turn the lamps off. Each light is turned on by pressing the lens and off by pressing it a second time. The lights also come on when a door is opened or the dimmer switch is turned fully upward, past the second detent.
1391. I have a 2005 PT Convertible and would like to custom paint the steering wheel center cover, but don't want to just pry it off without checking here first. Has anyone ever taken the horn/airbag cover off? If so, could you tell me how? Thanks. – Anonymous post, from PTDIY forum.
The steering wheel center cover is part of the driver airbag system.
“The driver airbag protective trim cover is the most visible part of the driver airbag system. The driver airbag is mounted directly to the steering wheel. Located under the airbag cover are the horn switch, the folded airbag cushion, and the airbag cushion supporting components. The driver airbag cover is available for service replacement if marred, scratched, or disfigured. The protective trim cover is fitted to the front of the airbag and forms a decorative cover in the center of the steering wheel. The inside of the trim cover has locking blocks molded into it that engage a lip on the airbag metal housing. Two stamped metal retainers then fit over the inflator mounting studs on the back of the airbag housing and are engaged in slots on the inside of the cover, securely locking the trim cover into place. The trim cover will split at predetermined breakout lines, than fold back out of the way along with the horn switch and tray unit upon airbag deployment.”
I wouldn't advise painting it, but if you must, make sure you have a service guide on hand before you begin the process. A Restraint System guide is available in the Pit area if you need one.
1392. I have a 2003 TE PT with 61.4k miles. I was driving in heavy rain everything was fine, but suddenly while trying to make a left turn the steering wheel locked up, and I had to pull the while hard to turn. What could cause the car not to want to turn left or right? – Kay, from Texas.
The OE diagnostic lists a dozen possibilities from suspension to power steering system issues. The first thing I would check is the level of the power steering fluid level and for a loose power steering pump drive belt. If that doesn't resolve the issue and you plan to DIY you'll need a service guide, or you can review the diagnostic in the Pit area on the site.
1393. I have a 2001 LE PT with 44k miles. I took the vehicle to a local dealer for a 3k mile oil service and was told the Watts Link bushings are worn and need replacement ($150, with parts/labor). I checked the price on Watts bushings, which were $16.99. If I decide to DIY, what is the degree of difficulty in handling this repair? A complete bushing replacement kit is available for the entire vehicle, front to back for $149.00. Labor to replace is out of this world. Is this feasible to do? Thanks for any advice/help you may be able to offer. – Michael, from Ohio.
If you're describing the upper and lower links, which have ball joints on one end and bushings on the other, the bushings on the links are not serviceable. The service manual clearly states - inspect the link bushings for signs of damage or deterioration. If damage or deterioration is present, replace the link.
The link replacement procedure should not be difficult for an experienced DIYer with good automotive skills and access to automotive tools however the completion of the process does call for placing the vehicle on an alignment rack or drive-on hoist.
I would suggest that you evaluate (service manual) all of the procedures you're interested in performing before you invest an additional $150 on bushing to determine if these repairs are appropriate for you. Most require various amounts of skill and or specialized tools or equipment. OE Suspension system guides are available through the Pit area on the site.
1394. I have a 2001 TE PT with 35k miles. The rear hatch struts no longer adequately lift the hatch (have to manually lift the hatch to the highest open position). I'd like to replace the old ones with OE struts, which I ordered through DC. Just unsure how to install them as the screws on each end don't seem to be oriented with the existing holes - lining up the bottom screw, for example, moves the upper screw pointing the wrong way. –Eric, from California.
I have that same problem with my 2001 and I'm a little tired of bumping my head. We have an OE guide available through the Pit area, but the procedure is pretty straight forward since there only two bolts. Make sure you install them with the piston end facing up. The replacement props should line up exactly like the current props, assuming that they are the correct part. The 2001 PT Cruiser IPB part catalog lists the OE P/N as 4724 743AB, quantity 2, description PROP, Liftgate. You may want to compare this P/N to what you received since the 2002-03 IPB's indicate a change in the PN to 4724 743AD.
1395. I have a 2001 LE PT with 60k miles. Is the Venom V48-100 performance chip a worthwhile investment? It is a plug & play add-on which supposedly improves hp, torque, etc. I don't see any references or questions on your great site. – Warren, from Virginia.
As you may know, we don't make product recommendations, nor unfortunately have we received any feedback from owners on the Python Venom 400 Performance Control Modules. The Python website has posted the results of a dyno test performed on a PT using their VCN 2000 Nitrous product however I didn't find any test results for the Python VPC Modules. Python claims that their product increases torque, more (up to 25%)hp in the 1,500 to 5,000 rpm range, and reduced delay during sudden acceleration. The theory behind the product is interesting. The VPC module activates at about 25-30% throttle angle and modifies the input signals entering the PCM (in particular the MAP and TP sensor signals). When the PCM receives the modified signals it provides a different set of fuel and ignition maps than it would normally provide under OE conditions. These maps tell the PCM what the spark timing and fuel injection pulse should be for any given engine operating condition (under load, part throttle or deceleration, etc.). The VPC module makes the PCM use the more aggressive maps that supposedly provide better performance. Installation time is approximately one-half hour and consists of mounting the VPC module in the engine bay and completing a four-wire connection; power, ground, TPS and MAP signal wires. The literature suggests a slight decrease (1-3) in mpg when using the module. The module is controlled through an on-off switch inside the vehicle and costs $300-$350, with a 1 year warranty.
Follow up from owner - The concept of easy installation and function of the VENOM 400, Model V48-100 is great; however, per VENOM tech support, the module for the PT can only be programmed to operate at throttle openings of about 75% or more, rather than the typical 25~30% for most others. Consequently, the effective throttle range was small, since at full throttle opening, the module adds nothing. Evidently, if programmed for a wider band, the engine bucks and runs rough. It's just as easy to "floor it" and get the same result.
1396. I have a 2002 TE 2.0L PT with 65k miles. The MIL light came on and shortly thereafter it started to run poorly, and experience erratic idle when in neutral, with occasional stalling due to very low RPM. The only error on the self test was a P0505 (Idle Air Control System Malfunction). The corrective action on your fault code listings recommends the motor itself should be replaced. Is this correct or could the fault also be caused by another component within the system, such as the Idle Air Control Valve? Thanks. – Andy, from the UK.
DTC's are the results of a system or circuit failure, but generally do not directly identify the failed component or components. However, in this instance the service manual is pretty clear:
DTC P0505 (M)
Idle Air Control Motor Circuits - Replace idle air control motor
However, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is the only issue. Vehicle self tests can be helpful, but they have limitations in what they check and reveal. The only way to accurately check the scomplete ystem for faults is with a scan tool, which is what the dealer would use to diagnose the issue. The scanner would show all recorded faults, including the recorded, but hidden ones not visible with the self tests. You may want your local dealer to run a diagnostic on your PT prior to replacing the IAC motor to verify that there are no other outstanding faults. It will cost you about $50, but that may be less expensive than throwing parts at it if replacing the IAC motor doesn't completely resolve the issues you are experiencing. Or you can replace the motor and hope for the best.
Follow up from owner - I decided to change the IAC motor which has completely resolved the issue. The car is running ten times better. Thank you.
1397.We have a 2001 BE PT and have been thinking about trading it for a 2005 PT. The sticker on the window mentioned an EBL system, but the salesman wasn't familiar with the feature. Do you know what it is? Thanks. – Remington, from Alabama.
The EBL system, or Electric Backlight System, is the new name for the PT's rear window defogger system, which is turned ON or OFF by a control switch and a timing circuit, that are combined into a single push-button switch located on the accessory switch bezel at the center of the instrument panel. The operation appears to be similar to previous model year PT's.
1398. We have a 2004 GT Turbo (LO) PT with 30k miles. Recently we experienced a front oil seal leak. We had warranty work done, which seemed to fix the problem, but two days later we noticed oil leaking again. We returned it to the dealer, and they said it may be a loose oil filter. They tightened it, but it still leaked the next day. The dealer then said it was a faulty gasket on the oil filter. They replaced the oil filter and drove the vehicle and kept it overnight. They now say it is the "Cooler" that the oil filter is attached to. I have never heard of a "Cooler". Is this a legitimate problem, or could it be something else? I have a little mechanical knowledge, but not much experience with the PT. Thank you. – Roland, from Texas.
Yes, that's correct. An engine oil cooler is used on the 2.4L Turbo engine. The cooler is a coolant-to-oil type, mounted between the oil filter and oil filter adapter. We occasionally hear from owners who experience oil leaks at the drain plug however leaks are generally not a common problem. I would let them replace the oil cooler. If it continues to leak after the cooler is replaced you may want to consider a second opinion with another dealer.
1399. I have a pre-owned 2003 TE 2.2L CRD (diesel, turbo) PT with 29k miles, which I purchased a year ago with a Mopar towbar/electronics package already fitted. No problems until after towing a trailer for 230 miles. After unhooking the trailer the turn indicators flash at double speed. If the trailer plug is reattached the indicators flash at normal speed again. – Bob, from the United Kingdom.
There are a few conditions that can cause turn signals to flash at twice the normal rate, including a faulty external lamp, poor ground at lamp, open circuit in wiring to external lamp, faulty contact in multifunction switch. Given that normal operation is regained once the trailer plug is attached the towbar/electronics connector would be my primary focus with regard to an open circuit in the wiring.
Follow up from owner - There is a switch inside the tow socket which operates when the trailer connector/plug is inserted. It was stuck in, which gave an indication that the trailer was still connected. Once freed, the turn signal indicator dropped back to normal speed.
1400. I have a 2001 LE PT with 20k miles. We were installing glow gauges and bent the needle shaft on speedometer and there may be other damage to the instrument cluster. I have to replace the cluster, but the one I purchased was from a 2003 PT. Will this cause a problem in the electronics or do I need to try finding one out of 2001? – James, from Kentucky.
The IPB part catalogs indicate that the clusters are different for each model year. The # symbol indicates a change for that model year. The catalogs do not indicate the nature of the change, or if the cluster is backward compatible with other model year PT's, which is doubtful. I can tell you that beginning with the 2002 model year PT the functions previously performed by the chime module are now part of the smart cluster. (Verify these P/N's with your local dealer.)
2001 - 4671 534AF 1 C 120 MPH W/Tach
2003 - #4671 803AF 1 C EDZ 120 MPH [EDZ]
In addition, understand that they are not simply plug and play, nor can they be swapped out among vehicles. Each cluster has learned information stored in its microprocessor for the Airbags, Anti-Lock Brakes, Cruise, and Smart Key Immobilizer. Swapping clusters between cars may result in the improper illumination of cluster indicators associated with the above features. If you plan to DIY I suggest you have a service manual on hand since each cluster requires special handling. You'll find more info available in the Pit area if you need it.
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