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The following is a compilation of Q&A's submitted by enthusiasts and answered by Ask Motor-Mike and Ed.

 

Part Twenty Four - Q&A 576 - 600


576. I have a 2002 TE PT and would like to install a MSD DIS-2 ignition system and Tach Adapter on my wife's PT. I would like to know the description of the three wires that are located on the ignition coil? One of them should be the 12+ volts to the coil and the other two should be trigger one (coil-) and trigger two (coil-). I would also like to know if the coils are 360 or 720 degree firing coils? Thanks for your help. - Daniel, from Texas.

Each pulse from the PCM fires 2 cylinders, one on the compression stroke and the other on the exhaust.

Page 8W-30-4 of the 2001 & 2002 service manual and 8W-30-18 of the 2003 shows the colors as:

Pin 1- dark blue w/tan - coil #2 pulse grounded by the PCM
Pin 2 - dark green w/orange - 12v from ASD relay
Pin 3 - black w/gray - coil#1 pulse

 


577. I have a 2001 PT LE with 42k miles. The power steering is inoperable and the dealer indicated that it needed a new power steering pump. The fluid level was full and no there was no noticeable leaking. Is this repair common for a 2-1/2 year old vehicle? Thank you. - Jeff, from California.

There have been other reports of bad power steering pumps. As the weather gets cold and the fluid thickens up. Many have been handled under warranty; your dealer and DC zone rep can make a customer satisfaction claim to get it covered.

 


578. I have a 2001 TE PT. Is there a schematic somewhere outlining all the PT's fuses? My turn signals are not working, but the owner's manual doesn't pinpoint a fuse for them. The hazard lights work fine. Thanks. - Bob, from Delaware.

The service manual devotes a complete chapter to wiring. Page 729 shows that the power is fed to the multifunction switch from fuse 19 (15amps) in the underhood PDC. The switched power is from fuse 15 (20amps) in the interior fuse box. Fuses don't just blow. If one is bad, something happened to cause it. Diagnosing the cause, not the symptom, is required.

 


579. I have a 2001 LE PT and the key does not activate or deactivate the alarm from the drivers side door lock. It will unlock the driver side door, however it no longer unlocks the other doors when the key is turned several times. I have tried the second key with no result. The passenger side door lock functions properly, as well as the remote keyless entry. I have tried spraying CRC electrical grade lubricant into the lock and it intermittently worked, but now it does not work at all. Thank you. - John, from Florida.

The electrical switch seems the most likely. I do not know if it can be replaced without installing a whole new lock assembly. Let us know what parts are shown on the warranty paperwork.

 


581. I have a 2001 LE PT. Do you know of any kits that will convert rear drum brakes to disc? Thank you. - Art, from Massachusetts.

Wyckoff Chrysler carries a conversion kit for the PT. You can check it out on their web site. PT DIY Club members receive a 5% discount on purchases there.

 


581. I just purchased a new 2003 TE PT w/auto transmission (my third) and I already have an issue with a particular noise that I hear. This sound seems to be coming from the drivetrain area. When coasting or decelerating, no load on the throttle, there is a distinctive ratcheting sound of gears turning. Sounds like a spinning ratchet wrench. It is a very subtle sound, but present none the less. It does not stop or decrease in intensity when the gear selector is moved to neutral. It does stop when pressure is applied to the throttle (under load). It returns once again once when you release the accelerator. This leads me to believe that it is not engine related (it does not decrease w/rpm's) or the transaxle, directly. The ratchet sound happens through the entire speed range, from 60 plus mph down to 0. The sound remains constant regardless of wheel position. Any experience with a condition like this? Thanks as always. - Frank, from Pennsylvania.

Check the transmission fluid first, it could be low, then I would inspect the CV driveshafts. It could also be a misadjusted preload on the final drive differential gears, or the backlash may not be adjusted properly.

 


582. Art from Massachusetts wrote that he recently purchased a used 2001 PT, which had power door locks, but no alarm system. He wanted a basic alarm system that would qualify for his full 20% insurance discount. He purchased a Black Hawk alarm system through Best Buy and also had them install it. The PT originally came with one keyless entry (FOB) transmitter. The new alarm transmitter was programmed to work with the door locks and alarm system. It was set up to use two buttons; one arms the system and locks the doors, and the other disarms the system and unlocks the doors.

They offer other alarm choices, without a keyless entry or with a remote start option depending on how much you want to spend. The system includes a lifetime warranty on the unit and labor, and cost approximately $195 with installation, which is very reasonable. His local DC wanted to charge him twice as much for a system with the same features.

Black Widow Alarm Model BW-4150

Features:

Status indicator (red LED)
Valet/override switch
Multi tone siren
Dual Stage impact detector
Remote panic
Keyless entry
Illuminated entry
Two transmitters

 


583. I have a 2002 LE PT with 8500 miles. Up to now the temperature gauge has stayed fairly steady at just a hair under the half mark. Lately it has started cycling up and down in the 3rd quadrant under the half mark. Is this normal for the PT? - Dustin, from Oklahoma.

I would say this is due to the unusually cold weather this January. What you are seeing is the thermostat opening and closing. As long as the T-stat doesn't stick open or closed, you should be fine.

 


584. I have a 2001 TE PT and have a question regarding steering. When I make slight steering corrections (not a full turn) I can feel what can be described as a light "chug chug" as if the powering steering is slightly cutting in and out. This is not noticeable in a full turn. I took it to a dealer, but they said the suspension that is special for cornering on the Touring Edition feels different. I find this hard to believe. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you. - Craig, from Canada.

The only difference between the touring model and other editions is that it uses different spring part numbers. The rest is all the same. The dealer parts department can verify this for them. I would suggest that you take the technician for a ride in your PT, then make a comparison in a new PT off the sales lot to demonstrate the differences.

 


585. I have a 2001 LE PT and would like to install the M3 Power Mirrors, which are similar to the Muth Signal Mirrors. Where would you suggest that I tap into the OEM wiring to hook up the parking lights and turn signals, which are need to make them functional on the M3 mirrors? Any help or information will be greatly appreciated. - Jim, from Florida.

Service manual, page 735, 8W-52-4, shows the turn signal lamp wires. The tan with red stripe is found under the dash at connector C-106, pin 5. Page 788, 8W-80-11 shows C-106 as a 26 pin connector.

Service manual, page 8W-50-10, 721, shows the parking lamps. The black with yellow stripe is found at connector C-106, pin 26. Page 866, 8W-91-21 shows the C-106 location under the steering column.

 


586. We have a 2002 TE PT and live in snow country. Recently my wife slid into a hardened snow bank along the highway and cracked the front bumper fascia. Is it easy to remove and replace, or should I go to body shop or dealership for repair? Does the part come painted to match the factory paint? Please help. - Nick, from Pennsylvania.

ThumbnailWe are not trained in body and paint repair work, therefore this advice is based upon information we have received and personal experience. Replacing the damaged Front Bumper Fascia is not too difficult. That section includes the lower grille area you described and color keyed bumper. In addition, you may need to replace the flexible black poly radiator air dam below the Front Bumper Fascia, which bolts on with a few screws and costs $25-30.

What you really want to be concerned about is the possibilty of damage underneath the Front Bumper Fascia. You won't be able to tell much about that until you remove the damaged section. It is not unheard of to find further damage on many vehicles that have been involved in minimal impact crashes. So, the question is, if you disassemble the car and find damage then what? Can you repair it? If not, you will have to reassemble it and take it to a body shop where they have the necessary experience and equipment. If you decide to DIY, replacement parts come unpainted and you will need a service manual. You can check with your local DC dealer for the cost on the replacement Front Bumper Fascia part. If you're not experienced in body and paint work take it to a reputable repair shop and have them handle the work for you. If you prefer to DIY, we have a guide in the Pit area.

 


587. I have a 2001 TE PT. When I turn the steering wheel intensively I can hear a ticking sound. What is the cause and is it hazardous? If not, should this be repaired? Thank you very much. - Piet, from Netherlands.

It sounds like the clockspring in the steering column. We have received a few other complaints regarding this issue and DC issued a TSB. See the TSB section in the Pit area for more details.

 


588. I have a 2001 LE PT. I installed an Avital auto start alarm in my PT over the weekend. I activated the alarm and it started the vehicle. I put the car in reverse, but did not turn the ignition to the on position. The car stalled a little and I noticed what I did and proceeded to turn the key in the ignition, but the check engine light came on. There is nothing wrong with the vehicle; it's still driving the way it always has. Could you explain how to reset the check engine light that is currently on? - Jack, from the USA.

You can determine the exact fault code by running the two "vehicle self tests" discussed in the FAQ Diagnostic section on the site. The codes can only be cleared with a scanner, which may require a trip to your dealer. They may or may not be erased from short-term memory after a number of drive cycles.

 


589. I own a 2001 LE PT. The interior lights no longer shutoff automatically, even with all of the doors closed. They do shutoff when the light switch is turned to the "off" position. In addition, the foglights are not turning on (no indicator on dash), could this be a related problem with the multifunction switch? Fuse #8 checks OK. Thanks. - John, from California.

Several owners have reported malfunctioning multifunction switches, which have been replaced under warranty. Yours sounds like another candidate. It's time for a visit to your local dealer to have it checked out.

 


590. I have a 2001 LE PT. The engine light recently came on and I had my wife check the gas cap to make sure it was on correctly. It was not, so she reseated it, but the light stayed on. I had her drive by Auto Zone and ask them to check the code. They said it was a high emission leak code. When she came home I looked it over and found nothing wrong, but I could hear it misfiring. It has 31k miles on it now, but I replaced the spark plugs around 22k miles. I reset the gaps to 050; the PT ran smoother and the engine light went out, but it still sounded like it was misfiring slightly. I needed to take it in and have them replace a gasket on the fuel system under a recall notice, so I had them run a DRBIII diagnostics. While monitoring the cylinder misfire screen they found multi cylinder misfires and removed 2 accessible spark plugs. One of them was out of specs, and was re-gaped, but the multi-misfiring continued. The test also showed a restriction in the throttle body and problem with the fuel injectors, which affects the idling. They wanted to clean the throttle body and injectors, and check the gaps on the other spark plugs for a total cost of around $600.00. I decided to check the gaps myself. I was also hoping to handle the throttle body and injectors with a little guidance from you. Do you have any ideas as to what could be the problem? - Daniel, from Texas.

I would venture to say that the throttle body and injectors are fine. That sounds too familiar. Dealers make up these dire needs to make some extra cash. 31K miles with quality fuel should not require cleaning yet. If you have multiple misfires, you will get an engine light, P0300 to be exact. I question how they claim misfires, yet there is no code evident. You can determine the exact fault code by running the two "vehicle self tests" discussed in the FAQ Diagnostic section on the site. You might also consider obtaining a second opinion from another dealer. If the TB needs servicing, you'll find a guide in the Pit area for cleaning the Throttle Body. It's easy to DIY and very inexpensive compared to what the dealer charges.

 


591. I have a 2002 LE PT, w/moonroof. I've had a leak in the front passenger compartment since I bought the car 4 months ago. I took it to the dealer one day while it was raining and showed them where the water was coming in, but the following day it was dry and they were unable to locate the leak. Well, it's raining now, and the floor and A pillar are soaked. It looks like its coming through where the headliner meets the plastic cover for the A pillar. - Grant, from Canada.

Follow up from Grant - The dealer ended up removing the windshield and resealing it during reinstallation. They also pulled the roof liner out and resealed the roof as well. It's been 2 weeks and no more leaks. I think it was the windshield.

 


592. I have a 2002 LE PT. When I'm driving along and door locks cycle. When I park the car and turn the key off same thing happens. Occasionally when I stop the car, get out and close the door, the car locks itself and the remote will not open it. Only the key will open it when this occurs. This morning I heard a noise in the garage. The motors in the doors and hatch were cycling but the locks were not moving. I inserted the key into the door and tried to lock/unlock the doors, but the locks would only go up and down. Occasionally, when you're in the car and the locks cycle and the lock button will not function. The first time I visited the dealer the problem would not manifest itself, however on the second visit I could demonstrate the problem. - Don, from Wisconsin.

Follow up from owner - Dealer Service Report

08801501 Switch, Disarm -Door Lock - test and replace [C] 1 5293090AA Switch Security Alarm FC: 07.

08802705 Switch Assembly, Door Lock - test and replace [B] 1 4671623AA Switch - Door Lock.

Inspected power and grounds - OK. Used DRBll - OK. Switch inputs/outputs and sensors {maximum voltage readings] OK in L/F door. Right door switches stick intermittently. Replaced R/F door power lock switch and R/F door security switch. Rechecked - OK.

I was told that there was no voltage to R/F door in the start of test and relays in the door were cycling, but the locks. There is a TSB out there for Durango's and Caravan's for this issue. They said water and moisture affects this problem - washed my car both times before this problem occurred.

 


593. I reviewed the guide on installing the doublewide armrest and have a specific question. The 2003 Touring model comes with armrests on both the driver and passenger seats, but they're still too narrow to be comfortable. Would the doublewide armrest fit between the seats while still utilizing the passenger side OEM armrest? Thanks in advance. - Andy, from Connecticut.

Unfortunately, there is not enough clearance to replace the narrow driver side OEM armrest with a doublewide and still utilize the OEM passenger side armrest.

 


593A. We have a 2001 LE PT, which we constantly wash and pamper. Lately we've noticed, what appears to be water spotting. Is there something we can do to eliminate the ugly spots? Thank you. - Mel, from the Virginia.

Most PT owners spend a good deal of time keeping their vehicles clean. A common problem for many owners appears to be water spotting on the vehicle's painted and glass surfaces. There are a few things you can do to help reduce the possibility of spotting, and to remove spotting once it occurs.

In many areas of the country the water that we use contains minerals, which will leave a deposit on the car, if left to dry naturally. When water evaporates off of your vehicle's paint or glass it leaves behind trace elements. Calcium and metals are the most damaging elements found in your tap water, and rainwater can contain damaging acids from air pollutants.

Generally, the easiest way to reduce the possibility of spotting is to hand wash your vehicle and dry it immediately after each wash. Avoid using automatic car washes, which utilize harsh chemicals, and may damage your car's finish. Before you begin hand washing your vehicle make sure that your car is cool too the touch, and work in the shade whenever possible. A hot surface causes the wash and rinse water to evaporate too quickly, which increases the possibility of water spotting. For easier drying, during the final rinse use free flowing water (nozzle off the hose), which allows most of the water to sheet off the car. Dry the vehicle with clean 100% cotton terry cloth towels, an Absorber or Miracle Towel. The application of a few coats of quality wax or other finish, will also reduce the likelihood of spotting.

If you already have mild spotting on your vehicle use a detailing spray after you wash, or as soon as you discover the spots. Once the spots stand for a while, they will attach to and harden on your paint and glass. Once this occurs you will need a mild acid to help remove them. Car care professionals suggest using a 50/50 solution of distilled white vinegar and bottled water to safely remove light spotting. Vinegar is a very mild acid, which when applied dissolves the alkaline-based mineral water deposits with ease. Wash your car with your regular car soap, rinse; then use the combined distilled vinegar and water solution. Wipe it on with a sponge, one section at a time, then let it sit for a minute, and rinse. When you're finished, wash the car again, rinse and dry. If you have wax on your vehicle the vinegar will remove it, so be prepared to reapply the wax.

Hard water spotting may present other problems. If you allow it to remain on your vehicle for more than a week or two it can etch the paint or glass. Hard water contains excessive trace elements including calcium, iron, lime, and other minerals found in streams and rivers. In many instances even though the minerals have been removed, the paint and glass still have spots. If spotting is still present after your first removal attempt try using undiluted distilled white vinegar to remove the hard water spots.

If the vinegar fails to remedy the problem it may be necessary to use a glass or paint polish to remove the spotting. A good quality paint polish is relatively easy to find, however you may have some difficulty locating an appropriate glass polish. If you're unable to locate a glass polish a suggested replacement would be any light (low abrasive) car polish that does not contain paint feeding oils. Eagle One Scratch Remover is a good example of a polish that does not contain oils and works well on glass, as does P21S Multi-Surface Finish Restorer.

 


594. I saw timing advance kits for the PT on ebay. They are computer chips that will give you 20 extra horsepower on your Cruiser. Are they any good or just junk? - Ron, from USA.

Don't waste your money, they're junk.

 


595. I have a 2003 PT Turbo and wondered if there is another way to remove and trim the front bump stops, without having to remove the strut or compress the springs? The company that installed them forgot to trim the bump stops up and I wanted to do it myself. The rear bump stops do not pose a problem since they are visible; I can crawl under the car with a small hacksaw to take care of them. Thank you. - Jonathan, from Florida.

Written instructions were included with all the springs I've installed. I do not recommend any other way of removing the struts, other than what is specified in the instructions. A small nick in the strut shaft will destroy the seal and void the warranty.

 


596. François from Toronto Canada owns a 2002 TE PT and wrote that with the advent of the cold weather in November the front wheels seemed to have developed a balancing problem. Intermittently, while driving at speeds of about 90km/h and higher the front end shakes. The local DC dealer couldn't find anything wrong with the wheels or tires, so I finally took the car to a dedicated tire shop. They took the time to dismount the front tires and discovered that one of them contained about 1 quart of water. The water would freeze when the car was immobile at night, which caused the imbalance and handling problems. Chrysler's attitude was deceiving, saying that their warranty do not cover tires. The tire shop balanced the wheels and the car now rides like it never did before.

PTDIY Note - We have received no other reports of water found in tires. Since this seemed like such an unusual problem I mentioned it to Mike and he said; most likely, the water was in the tire when it was assembled at the factory. One good rain with the tires in transport can do that.

Lars wrote, I read about the problem of water freezing inside the tire, and how it caused an imbalance. I experienced a similar problem on another car - one or two tires slowly lost air. I finally discovered that the cheap plastic after market valve stem extensions that I was using allowed water to seep into the valve assembly. As it seeped inside, it also froze the OEM valve stem, which caused it to stay slightly open and lose air.

 


597. I have a 2001 BE PT. My power steering just began to act up, without any previous warning. While driving I recently noticed that when I try to turn the car, it seems like I have no power steering. When I reach highway speeds it seems fine. Sometimes I turn in one direction and it acts OK, but fails when turning in the opposite direction. I have 90100 (all highway) miles on my PT and haven't had any trouble with it. I love my PT, but I hope it's something easy and inexpensive to repair. - John, from USA.

Based upon the behavior you describe it sounds like the power steering pump and or the rack. Usually, it's one or both components.

 


598. Can you add the 2003 PT Turbo (w/17" wheel) lug nut specifications to the web site? I bought some 12mm x 1.5 locking lugs for my PT and they didn't fit?

The specs for the 2003 wheel lugs are the same as those for the 2001- 2002 model years, and verified through the 2003 service manual and Tire Track. Perhaps they sold you the wrong size?

Wheel mounting stud size = M12 X 1.5mm
Wheel mounting nut hex size = 19mm
Wheel mounting nut torque = 100ft/lbs (85-115)
Re: page 22-18 of the service manual 2001
Re: page 22-16 of the service manual 2002
Re: Page 22-13 of the service manual 2003

Follow up from owner - Retailer sent wrong size.

 


599. I have a 2002 TE PT w/automatic transmission, and I'm experiencing some transmission problems. This will be the third time I visit the dealer. At 30K miles the engine light came on and lost power. During an 8-day period, the dealer rebuilt the transmission. One day later (about 200 miles), I took it back because the transmission was leaking all over and they worked on it for 4 days. Now at 36k miles I have the some problem, it's leaking all over. In order to drive it, I had to add some transmission fluid (1QT). Have you ever seen this type of problem before? Thanks. - Lester, from California.

We haven't received any email describing the problems you've been experiencing with your transmission. If you're using anything other than ATF+4, you could be causing more damage than you can imagine. ATF+4 is only available at the Chrysler dealer at this time. It retails for about $8 per quart.

It sounds like the original defect was due to manufacturing. The rest may be due to the repair technician's mistakes, in which case they should stand behind it and correct the problem. You might also check into your states Lemon Laws to determine if you have recourse, in the event that the defect can not be adequately addressed.

Follow up - Mark B from Chicago wrote that he came across some Mopar ATF+4 transmission fluid at a national automotive parts chain called Murrays priced at $5.99 a quart. They also carry a line of Amsoil products.

 


600. I have a 2002 LE PT and would like to know how I can remove all 4 side step pads (I am not sure if that is what they are called)? They are the pieces next to the black sill pads and flush with the interior carpet. I am not sure if I can just pop them off with a good tug or if there are screws somewhere? Thank you. - Eric, from California.

It sounds like you are describing the gray door sill trim (scuff plate) covers. They are held in place with a fastening system. Disengage the locating pins on the backside of the trim cover by prying the trim cover up from any corner, it should just pop off. To reinstall, simply align the locating pins with the mating holes in the vehicle frame and press in place until the pins engage. The door sill pads are removed in the same manner.

 



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